Talking Dragons & Hummingbirds with Kate Kemp
"In this episode, I chat with Graham Hall, author of The Dragon & the Hummingbird - a fantastic (and free!) book about climate change."


Here’s the extended conversation (more a chat) I had recently with the wonderful and life-affirming Kate Kemp, over there in Seattle. In our fun exchange of ideas I think you get a good sense of what ‘being a hummingbird’ means and the underlying ideas behind ‘The Dragon & the Hummingbird’
Thanks a lot Kate! ❤️